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Phase
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can you change the damage of every gun to be like 0104?

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-D1aMoNd_
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I agree,

The M4A1 Assault rifle, is way to overpowered. As soon as you kill a CT, all the Terrorist run after the M4a1. It's stupid.
Back in B0104, i was taking like six people out with a Mac10.

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Denied.
Stupid thing.
Spoiler >

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I agree too, and it's very true what diamond said, everyone always rushes for the M4, I once saw a dude swear at someone because he killed the guy and wanted the M4 I lol'd so hard

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it's really hard to find the perfect weapon balancing. the balancing in 0104 wasn't perfect either. it's a bit too easy to ask for weapon stats which are exactly like in 0104.

please point out the exact problems you see like diamond did

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DannyDeth
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Dc is right, maybe it would be better if the weapons were balanced to be more like the original CS1.6/CS1.7 which CS:2D was based on.

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CS2D is very different when it comes to aiming etc. so this doesn't work.
edited 2×, last 03.01.11 11:23:50 am

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DannyDeth
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Well yeah, that is a very good point. Well, I guess we will have to settle with what suits the game-play the best.

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Sugar
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that's why you should test it yourself DC! (some players can help you decide!)

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I found the change in the damage caused by a deagle a good one, the change in damage caused by an AWP a bad one.

People don't only run for the M4A1 because of the damage, but also because of the accuracy. AK47 is a better choice for people who have trouble aiming, because it has a larger spray and therefore they have a larger chance to hit.

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Maybe just make it so that any weapon can kill you with one cartridge, having in mind that normally, players dont hit ALL bullets.
In my opinion the only weapons that need rebalancing are the smg's.

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If u like to change the m4a1 damage just use a lua script..
something like
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parse("mp_wpndmg m4a1 21")

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Not everybody use Lua scripts, there should be a more easier way to change weapon damage of not just one weapon but all. Like a weapon configuration built in... like a config file (.cfg) that's pretty easy to use.

Perhaps there could be a option in CS2D where you can select which damage type you'd like. Damage like in CS2D v0.1.0.4 or like it's today optimized.

I also agree with Diamond, the M4A1 is very overpowered. I saw one CT taking me out before I took him out, I was spraying him just like he did me but he won and I was like 100% focused on killing him I swear. The damage of the M4A1 should be equal to the AK-47, otherwise perhaps it can be mathematicly calculated with rate of fire for a more precise and equal and fair amount of damage of the weapons. Not sure how that will be possible. Although the easiest solution would be to adjust the M4A1 and AK-47 to have the exact same rate of fire and damage, then all is happy on both teams.

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J4x
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the m4a1 has the same damage as ak47 the both make 22 of damage... how i say before if u like to change the weapon damage just use a lua script..

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-D1aMoNd_
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FN_Nemesis has written
how i say before if u like to change the weapon damage just use a lua script..


I'm not an idiot, we all know you can change the weapon damages via scripts. What we want is to have weapon damages similar to B.0104 installed, into the next release of CS:2D by default.

I know where not suppose to make suggestions for the next release, but i have one more suggestion I'd like to add:

You know how you connect to a server, you join a team, round had just started, then you gotta wait like four minutes, before the round finishes. In B0104, you were allowed to spawn within the first 30 seconds the round started i believe. I'm pretty sure you can do that in CS1.6 & Source aswel.

TMK has got it installed on his FFA server, and i was hoping you could implement into the next version.

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0104 damages are kinda jacked up lol. some people (d1 + others) like them but i find them unrealistic..

personally this is what i want the guns in max to be like.
btw a headshot system like in cs2dg would be great

pistols - everything is good
shotguns - lower damage, less spread
smgs - increase mac10/tmp damage. rest are fine
unscoped rifles - increase famas/galil damage. increase galil spray. keep m4 damage. increase ak damage and spray.
aug/sg552 - put unscoped damage between m4 and ak. drop scoped damage to like 30.
scout - drop damages... 2x scope damage to like 70 maybe?
rest - no change

but if i had to pick just one or two things to change, i would bump up famas/galil damage
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